http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ HotTubWorks Spa Repair Forum: Forum: Heaters - Recent Posts en Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:16:18 +0000 http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-389 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:36:14 +0000 Mary 389@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>I don't think your element is the problem. It sounds like you are not getting a call for heat and that may be due to the control panel malfunctioning. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-388 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:22:20 +0000 ggbelsky 388@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Mary,<br /> The actual temp is 62. I am going to test the element for resistance or connectivity. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-384 Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:55:10 +0000 Mary 384@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>It is a very good possibility that the <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/CabinetSides.php">control panel</a> is malfunctioning, even though you repaired the wires. The wires are so small that it can be difficult to get a good connection.<br /> What is the actual water temperature in your spa? I am trying to determine if your <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/HeaterComplete.php">heater</a> is actually working and maybe the indicator is not coming on due to the wires be chewed through. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-383 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:10:10 +0000 ggbelsky 383@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Mary,<br /> It went to the control panel, I have fixed that wire, do you think it may have shorted something? </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-382 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:17:45 +0000 Mary 382@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Do you know what the wire that the rat chewed up went to? Did they go to the control panel or one of the sensors? </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-381 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:19:54 +0000 ggbelsky 381@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>No, no other codes have shown, but the heat light is still not coming on, could there be a logic problem? What would I look for or how could I diagnose that? </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-376 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:01:27 +0000 Mary 376@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Is the actual water temperature 62 degrees like the display goes back to? Are there any other codes coming up on the display other than EC? </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-372 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:13:00 +0000 ggbelsky 372@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Mary,<br /> I appreciate the manual, I have run the spa for a day and a half and it is not heating either in standard or EC mode, I do not see the heat light coming on in the control pad. Any ideas? </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-364 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:06:19 +0000 Mary 364@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>EC stands for economy mode. Usually you will have a standard mode and a economy mode. When the spa is set in economy mode it will only heat during its set filter cycles. In standard mode it will heat on demand. So you need to verify how often your spa's filter cycles are set if at all. I am going to include a link for the owners manual showing you what these codes mean and how to program the filter cycles.<br /> <a href="http://www.calspas.com/manuals/downloads/2000/2000_06_01_manuals_Spas.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.calspas.com/manuals/downloads/2000/2000_06_01_manuals_Spas.pdf</a> </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/2000-cal-spa-no-heat-1#post-362 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:22:05 +0000 ggbelsky 362@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>I was recently given a 2000 Cal Spa Jacuzzi (not sure of a specific model)by a friend (it worked fine last time he turned it off). It has a panel on top that says GE electric, and the board says Balboa Instruments 2100 wiring system. There was a rat that got under it and chewed two or three of the small wires, which I have fixed. I filled the tub, the jets work, the blower works (on the option button), and the lights work fine. There is a little green light on the panel for suction safety mode which light up. But when I hit heat it starts at 100 and goes up to 104, blinks several times then goes back to 62 and blinks EC. Anyone have any idea what this could be? (The heat light indicator on the top panel is not lighting up either). Any help would be appreciated.<br /> George </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/how-to-set-heating-cycles#post-329 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:45:52 +0000 Mary 329@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>When you first power up the spa the internal time clock will begin working keeping track of the 12 hours between cycles. So what you could do is shut the power off in the evening when you would like the filter cycles to begin. This will reset the internal clock and should have your evening cycle start at that time and then run for however long or which filter cycle mode you have it set on. Then 12 hours later the second cycle would begin. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/how-to-set-heating-cycles#post-326 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:58:01 +0000 Anonymous 326@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>ah I see, so the manual is somewhat misleading. I guess this means it will heat/filter for 2, 4, or 6 hrs per 12 hrs (or continuous) as per the filter settings on pg15 of the manual. No way to set actual time (just duration). That's too bad as I was hoping to have it heat during the evening (when its used and when hydro is cheaper) instead of during the day. Oh well. Thank you very much for the info. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/how-to-set-heating-cycles#post-324 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:20:39 +0000 Mary 324@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Economy mode means the spa will only heat during its set filter cycles. Standard mode will heat the spa on demand. I have included a link for the owners manual and it is confusing.<br /> <a href="http://www.spasbyleisurebay.com/PDF_Manuals/Celebrity%20Manual_02.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spasbyleisurebay.com/PDF_Manuals/Celebrity%20Manual_02.pdf</a><br /> So whichever filter cycles you have set for your spa it will only heat during these cycles. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/how-to-set-heating-cycles#post-322 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:49:29 +0000 Anonymous 322@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>I have a Tonga hot tub from Leisure Spas. I want to program the heating cycles as it implies in the manual. Page 15 of manual says "Economy Mode operates the heater only during programmed Heating Cycles (See "Setting Heating Cycles" below)" Only problem is there is no section on "Setting Heating Cycles" so I have no idea how to program the heating times. I searched the internet high and low with no luck. Does anyone know how to do this or even how to contact this manufacturer? Any help would be greatly appreciated. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/thermal-cut-off#post-292 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:05:01 +0000 Anonymous 292@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Thanks for the reply Mary. I ended up looking at the Circulation pump because I could not see water coming out of the return line. After unwiring the spa, moving the heater, clamping hoses I got to the pump. The last owner had a lot of plant debris blocking the impeller but there was a massive calcium buildup. Pump is clean and calcium free now and the spa is running smooth. Later this month I am going to run spa purge to clean out the system so I can do the last fresh fill for the winter. Thank you again for the advice. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/thermal-cut-off#post-286 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:28:22 +0000 Mary 286@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>If the <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/PumpsCirculation.php">circulation pump</a> is running you should feel water coming out of the return line in the spa. If you don't you need to verify that the pump is getting power from the circuit board. If you are but it is not pushing water but the motor is on you may have a clogged or broken impeller. To test the <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/HeatersLanding.php">spa heater</a> you need to verify that it is getting power when the thermostat is turned up. If you have an clamp on amp meter you can clamp around one of the wires going to heater and see how many amps it is drawing while in a heat call. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/thermal-cut-off#post-285 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:39:04 +0000 Anonymous 285@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>I have a Tiger River Spa Sumatran (model N) It has been working fine for the last 6 months. I have not used it for 2 weeks and it is due for water change out. Water was cold and power light blinking. Troubleshooting section says it is either 1)GFCI and high limit thermostat 2) No-fault 6000 heater and heater thermal cut-off or 3) Silent flo 5000 circulation pump and circulation pump thermal cut-off. Solutions are the following: 1) clogged filter 2)blockage withing the plumbing 3)non-functioning heater circulation pump 4)power was not disconnected before draining 5) air lock in the plumbing lines. I drained the spa and followed refill procedure and ran spa and jets to bleed off any air. Once the heater gets to hot than same thing. Booklet only says it is one of the 5 problems. Once fixed it should work. 1)new filter 2)don't know 3)don't know 4)power was cut off for draining 5)I filled according to instructions and ran jets to instructions.<br /> Once the heater cools everything is fine but will trip in about 15 minutes? How do I check 2 and 3 and is there anything I am missing that you can suggest? I even put a plunger over the inlet were the heated water comes into the spa and I can move water and can not see any blockages or hear any air pockets. HELP </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/heating-problem#post-283 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:04:44 +0000 Anonymous 283@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Ok -- thanks for your help. I'm going to order the switch &#38; meanwhile monitor the spa and see how it works. Today temperature was lagging the setting by -6 degrees. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/heating-problem#post-282 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:49:52 +0000 Mary 282@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>That is good news. Since that <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/HeaterPressureSwitches.php">pressure switch</a> is 7-8 years old I would recommend replacing. They will fail over time and I am not sure how much adjustment was done in order for it to function correctly. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/heating-problem#post-281 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:27:10 +0000 Anonymous 281@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Ok --- Here's the update. I went back into the works again and readjusted the pressure switch and the tub seems to be heating -- reaching -2 to -3 degrees of where I set it. Would this be considered a normal variance? It seems to me with the old heater it was +/- 2. Also; re: the pressure switch; It seems to be working now since I adjusted it. It been in the tub since new. Should I replace it or see how it goes? </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/heating-problem#post-280 Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:43:06 +0000 Mary 280@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>So the heater is coming on but only heating to a certain temperature and then shuts off? If that is the case you may have a bad <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/HeaterSensors.php">temperature sensor</a> and needs to be replaced. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/heating-problem#post-278 Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:48:21 +0000 Anonymous 278@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>I have a Coast Spa Bronze/Silver with a Gecko SSPA Spa Pack. I purchased it new in 2001 or 2002. Recently it stopped heating. Due to its age and the absence of an OHM meter I replaced the heating element.All went successfully and the new heating element is in --- but apparently not working because I still have no heat. When I have the pumps running the water temperature goes up 7 - 10 degrees and stops. I adjusted the pressure switch as shown in Gecko's troubleshooting guide and it appears to be working. All pumps work, there is plenty of water flow and the digital key pad shows the heater is on, and the digital temperature readout records the proper temperature. The temperature is set cosiderably higher than the water temp. What should I try next? Gecko's troubleshooting guide recommended replacing the pressure switch if more than 2 years old -- do you think this might be the way to go -- or ? </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/overheating-2#post-226 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:21:37 +0000 Anonymous 226@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>mary, sorry for the delay, i have yet to chech the heater with a volt meter as i can not find mine. im gonna have to borrow one. as soon as i do, i will post a reply. thanks again. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/overheating-2#post-222 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:15:36 +0000 Anonymous 222@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>thanks, mary. i will reconnect in the morning, and test with a meter later and let you know. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/overheating-2#post-220 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:28:46 +0000 Mary 220@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>I would go ahead and reconnect the heater. Leave it set to 80 or a little higher in case the water is already there and when it reaches set temp take note if the heater indicator shuts off. If so and you are comfortable using a volt meter I would then take a voltage reading going to the heater to verify that power has shut off going to the heater. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/overheating-2#post-219 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:14:00 +0000 Anonymous 219@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>i have replaced the water and checked the tem. it rose from 69 to 78 overnight, however the temp was set to 80, therefor the pump ran all night thinking it needed to heat water. the heater is still disconnected. the polling cylce is set 2 min ever 30 min, and it suppposed to heat water if necessary. the filter cycle is 2 hours ever 12 hours. there is no circ pump.<br /> im having some trouble posting, so bear with me if it takes a while to reply. sometimes it wont post my message for some reason, and other times it will show up a day later. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/overheating-2#post-215 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:20:18 +0000 Anonymous 215@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>i replaced the water tonight. the temp was 68, and verified with another thermometer. the heater is still disconnected. this model can have an optional circ pump, but mine does not. the filter cycle is still the factory setting as far as i know. the spa does a temp polling every 30 min for 2 min and only heats water if needed(supposedly). the filter cycle is also factory set for 2 hours every 12 hours. we are in northern ky, and its been boiling hot as usual, however the spa performed perfect previous summers. we would actually turn it down below body temp in summer for a more relaxing soak, and it would maintain the lower temp. for this reason i dont think my problem is weather related. if weather and outside temp is the problem, it will fix itself in a couple months and save me a bundle. if youd like to check out the owners manuel,search master spas owners manuels, i have a 2005 downeast portsmouth model with 2 pumps. thanks again for you time and reply if you need more info or have another suggestion. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/overheating-2#post-214 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:23:09 +0000 Mary 214@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Yes I would recommend replacing the water. Then I would take note of the water temp after fill up and leave the <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/HeatersLanding.php">spa heater</a> disconnected over night and see what the temp gets to. The reason I asked how long the filter cycles are set for and what the outside temp is during the day because if the pump is running for a long period of time and it's hot outside the spa could potentially overheat with the heater not even coming on. This is due to the cover and a well insulated spa.<br /> Also, I do not believe this model spa has a 24 hour a day <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/PumpsCirculation.php">circulation pump</a> but can you please verify that for me. This would be a seperate small pump from your regular <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/PumpsSideCenterDischarge.php">therapy jet pump</a>. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/overheating-2#post-213 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:47:14 +0000 Anonymous 213@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>mary, yes, the temp readout is correct. the temp sensors were checked by a spa repair person in the area with an ameter. the reading was .017 , he had a new one on hand and it read the same, so we deterrmened the temp sensors ok. this morning, i disconnected the terminals from the electrical panel to the heating element(no way it can heat now) i checked the temp just before this post and it was now 104. still have no filters in unit. the pump sounds smooth as it ever did. im gonna drain the water and refill with new water. we havent used the spa in ten months(wife was pregnant)and the water is 12 months old, however we have maintained proper ph and other chemical levels. thanks for your help. look forward to hearing from you soon. </p> http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/topic/overheating-2#post-212 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:17:29 +0000 Mary 212@http://www.hottubworks.com/spa-repair-forum/ <p>Is the actual water temperature the same as what the readout says it is? Also, how many hours a day is the filter cycle set for and what is the ambient temperature during the day this time of year? How was the <a href="http://www.hottubworks.com/SpaParts/HeaterSensors.php">spa temperature senor</a> tested? </p>